Monday, December 22, 2008

indo pak tension

should the war be gaged or not? I think the US is behind the scence of enarging tensions betw IND- PAK. One thing is for sure, US wants to break down Pak in 4 provinces through supporting India in WAR. Our leadership whold understand that the war is not the solution for any thing, we will end up in smoke. Destruction is easier than to build, n v r already at the verge of destruction thru suicide attacks, n secticism. Wht u think shud happen in dis moment of tension.

23 comments:

M. Umer Toor said...

Quote: "I think the US is behind the scene of enraging tensions between IND-PAK"

Yaar that's bogus, seriously!

xzibit said...

i strongly agree with Umer Quote....

Anonymous said...

da abv mentnd iz da the only opinion 1 can evr gv

Muhammad Zohaib Alvi said...

I dont think the US is behind this. India has always turned international attention from Kashmir issue by creating such events.I think India itself is behind these attacks as can be guessed from its view of events and the lack of proof of the identity of "Ajmal Qasab"

Waqas Nasir Butt said...

i think india has now decided to change his plan n he take aserious action against pakistan

M. HAMZA said...

but gi, dnt tak tnsion thr wil b no war. I asure India wil nt atack on us if it hapen, thn war wil b strt frm sialkot(kiding)
India just want to pressurize pakistn & ntihng els.

Waqas Nasir Butt said...

YAR WE R READY TO DEFEND OURSELVES.
WE HAVE CAPABLE SOLDIERS AND PASSIONATE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT AFRAID FROM THEIR LIVES.

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Anonymous said...

Bt also keep in mind k these passionate soldiers can b countd on fingers and indias power is breath-takin in frnt of ours,so bs ALLAH kher kray odrwize they hav anytime better technology

bahawalshahryar said...

Hamza and Zohaib r right. India planned these attacks herself. They knew Obama may try to do something to solve the Kasmir issue.Hence they have tried to turn the world's attention away from Kashmir.They wont attack because they know v r a nuclear power and they r pressurizing us through the security council and other means and we, a nation with cowardly leaders as always are being on the defensive and accepting their pressure.

M. Umer Toor said...

"Hamza and Zohaib r right. India planned these attacks herself. They knew Obama may try to do something to solve the Kasmir issue.Hence they have tried to turn the world's attention away from Kashmir.They wont attack because they know v r a nuclear power and they r pressurizing us through the security council and other means and we, a nation with cowardly leaders as always are being on the defensive and accepting their pressure."

Thanks for providing much food for laughter. And, its a brilliant conspiracy theory, world-famous political scientist (late) Eqbal Ahmed would have agreed with you solemnly, after all he was a Formanite. (a website on him: http://www.bitsonline.net/eqbal/index.asp)

But seriously, from where did you get this lofty transcendent and psychic an idea?

Muhammad Zohaib Alvi said...

you know M.Umer if you want sarcasm I can give you loads and at the end you would be banging your head against the wall.but seriously look at the facts.10 teenagers armed with Ak-47 can hold of 1000 elite Black cats of India.now wouldn't you find that extraordinary..and there police chief who was investigating the train bombings got killed which even has aroused suspicion in India as well.so nest time you blog look at facts and history instead of being sarcastic

Waqas Nasir Butt said...

indians are serious in doing attack on the pakistan. it is clearly said by sonia gandhi and parnab mukherjee, this is a most disgusting situation know,
indians does not provide any proof of terrorist attack on mumbai
i dont know what about the future of pakistan and india.america wants pakistan divided

M. Umer Toor said...

No, I'm serious too. Let's reduce things (and rule out all fancies) if its 'your' theory keep it as a theory or hypothesis:

"Hamza and Zohaib r right. "India planned these attacks herself"."

To say in such a confident manner demands a concrete judicial thing we know as evidence. Otherwise if you're so sure it only be a psychic realization!

I've spoken.

humble regards!

bahawalshahryar said...

and Mr.Umer Toor what makes you think that India is not benifiting from the situation at hand? I would like something more concrete from ur side to belive that India has not planned these attacks herself; this veil of psychic assumtion is too ordinary an assumption to counter my Ah brilliant and as Zohaib pointed out, very much factual observation about India. Give somethig solid yar. U just used sarcasism without giving simply any food at all-Ha atleast I gave food for laughter if that is laughter for u.
My regards.

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bahawalshahryar said...

And if there is some concrete and highly optimistic knowledge that you have and we the so-ignorant dont have and which drives you to term these assumtions as 'Psychcic', please share it here with all of us. I am dying to here ur point of view.

M. Umer Toor said...

It seems as if war has begun. I need not to mention the words of an American defense analyst (or more probably he's a senior Pentagon officer) that today's wars will be 'diffused' wars. Pakistan seems to be in war already since 2001. If this kind of 'war' finds a tipping point b/w pak-indi, its going to last forever, because that kind of war will be fought on various levels, panes it will have many facets that never has happened to us (i mean '65 and '71). Pray to your Allah that it doesn't trigger off. And let's stop giving food/coal for more flames rather 'come to the common terms'.

I enjoyed it, thank you.
[who says sarcasm is bad for health?? :->]

humble regards!

Waqas Nasir Butt said...

our neighbour friends Saudia and Iran play their vital role in dissolving the conflict between pakistan and india, india is actually in pressure,
this is not right to say that pakistan give permission to his peole to attack in mumbai.How pakistan can give permission to these people, to attacck in mumbai, india is now becoming a puppet show nation. and no more stable enough.

Waqas Nasir Butt said...

pakistan is in mere trouble of terrorism and india always know about this situation they did not have arig8 to give wrong statements

Waqas Nasir Butt said...

mr toor i totally agree with your knowlegeable and powerfull statement- yah! it is totally true but now the situation is totally alter pak have the nuclear warfare so no one have to take the challenge from them even YOUR'S USA... becuse inorder to fight we use it and change the india and usa into the back event of heroshima and nagasaki- i think you might be aware with that incident hopw you understand well!!!

bahawalshahryar said...

Thankyou Umer so it seems after all you agree that Pakistan is being put under pressure diplomatically, whether it be America or India,That is what I said. War is not necessarily infiltration. Everything starting from the attacks on our armed forces in Waziristan to the scarce water in our dams due to stoppage from India is WAR and we have been facing it since 1947, not 2001.It just fired even more ferociously after 9/11.

M. Umer Toor said...

A view from India:

A columist writes in the editorial page of DAWN on 28th dec (probably)

"On the matter of sanity, a friend of mine in England forwarded to an old friend of his in India a typical column from the Pakistani press dealing with the Mumbai incident. The Indian, after reading the column, emailed him:

“It seems to me to be no more than paranoid ranting, especially the bit about ‘surgical strikes’, and going to war — and the bit about India looking for a ‘final solution’ to the Pakistani problem would be hilarious if it wasn’t so insidiously provocative to his local readers.

“If the guy took a break from his hysterical ranting and read Indian papers and watched Indian TV he would see very easily that the weight of opinion in India, both Hindu and Muslim, is — 1) Forget surgical strikes; we are not the US; they may be capable of it, we are certainly not. 2) The US can make them because (a) they have the UAVs which we don’t, and (b) Pakistan cannot ‘retaliate’ across thousands of miles of continents and ocean — which they can on India. 3) All important government officials, from the PM on, are on repeated record both in print and on TV, proclaiming that ‘war’ is not an option anyone wants to take, or should go around tom-tomming. 4) As for the ‘final solution’ of overrunning and absorbing Pakistan — that’s the biggest joke; the way most Indians see it is, we have enough problems of our own, why on earth would we want to take on a basket case like Pakistan?

“But you know when I was running GRIT in Mumbai and we had trainees attending from all over, including Pakistan, I did find one or two, quite friendly and highly intelligent otherwise, who truly believed that a full takeover of Pakistan by India was in fact India’s long-term endgame!

“It hasn’t happened in 60 years of course — but as with the Bushites’ stand on WMDs in Iraq — the fact that it hasn’t happened yet is conclusive evidence that it is just waiting to happen! As someone said — against the truly ignorant, even the gods are helpless.

“But a rebuttal of inflammatory stupidity is always worthwhile. Who knows, if there had been enough of that in 1930s Germany there might have been no Holocaust; or enough in post-9/11 America may have prevented Iraq and even Afghanistan?”"

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